• John Rimmer, Head, Married, 38, collier coal hewer, worker, Born Cheshire, Birkenhead

• Alice Rimmer, Wife, Married, 39, Born Lancaster, Ashton in Makerfield

• James Rimmer, Son, Single, 17, colliery dresser  below coal hewer, worker, Born Ashton in Makerfield

• Joseph Rimmer, Son, Single, 14, Colliery Dataller below, worker, Born Ashton in Makerfield

• Ellen Rimmer, Daughter, Single, 13, Reeling cotton mill, worker, Born Ashton in Makerfield

• Thomas Rimmer, Son, 11, Born Ashton in Makerfield

• Richard Rimmer, Son, 9, Born Ashton in Makerfield

• Alice Rimmer, Daughter, 6, Born Ashton in Makerfield

• William Rimmer, Son, 4, Born Ashton in Makerfield

• Ernest Rimmer, Son, 1, Born Ashton in Makerfield

[Note: In 1901, daughters Annie Rimmer and Elizabeth Rimmer were living with their Knowles grandparents, John Knowles and Anne Adamson]

• Annie Rimmer, ... , Single, 18, Born Lancashire Ashton in Makerfield

• Elizabeth Rimmer, ...., Single, 16, Born Lancashire Ashton in Makerfield

1905

JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER

• John Rimmer 1905  25 Old Road

All Lancashire, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1935

https://www.ancestry.ca/search/collections/61862/

1908 - 1910

JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER

• John Rimmer 1908-1910 25 Old Road

All Lancashire, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1935

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1910

JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER

• John Rimmer 1910 25 Old Road

All Lancashire, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1935

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(C) St Anne, Greenacres,
Roman Catholic

1911

MARCH 18

JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER
SON JOSEPH RIMMER AND MARY (MORRISSEY) RIMMER

24 BROADBENT ROAD, OLDHAM

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MARRIAGE
Joseph Rimmer and Mary Morrissey - March 18, 1911

• Entry of Marriage given at the General Register Office, 1911 Marriage solemnized at S^t Anns Church Greenacres Oldham in the District of Oldham in the County of Oldham

[Editor's Note:  This is St. Annes Roman Catholic Church, Greenacres, Oldham, Lancashire, United Kingdom  - It was founded in 1878. St Anne's, Airey Street opened in November 1880. A new church and school opened in July 1902. A further new church was built in Cook Street and opened in July 1935. - http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Oldham/StAnne.shtml This would be Fr. Owen McNulty who married them. ]

[Editor's Note: List of parish records held by Oldham Local Studies and Archives: St. Anne, Greenacres Baptisms 1878-1941 MF-R67, MF-R68; Marriages 1879-1941 MF-R68; Confirmations 1905-1936 MF-R68 - http://www.oldham.gov.uk/community/parish-registers.htm ]

 

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1911
Surname	Forename(s)	Surname	Forename(s)	Church / Register Office	Registers At	Reference
RIMMER	Joseph	MORRISSEY	Mary	Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended	Oldham	RM/133/103

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

• Morrissey Descendants: The Ancestors of Mary Morrissey

Joseph Rimmer

 in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915

Name: Joseph Rimmer
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Oldham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 836
Records on Page:
Name
Joseph Halkyard
Mary Morrissey
Joseph Rimmer
Elizabeth Topp

http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8913 

CENSUS OF 1911

APRIL 2

(Note: The 1911 census was taken on the 2nd April)

JOSEPH RIMMER AND MARY (MORRISSEY) RIMMER

2 TALBOT STREET, OLDHAM, LANCASHIRE

[Residing at the Home of MICHAEL MORRISSEY AND BRIDGET (RYAN) MORRISSEY]

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Institution, Household or Vessel	Name	Birth Year	Age	Sex	Registration District	County
Household	RIMMER, Joseph	1887	24	M	Oldham	Lancashire
Household	RIMMER, Mary	1892	19	F	Oldham	Lancashire

Note: John Rimmer, born 1911, is not identified as living in this household

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/CensusPersonStartSearchServlet?censusYear=1911

 

Name:	Mary Rimmer
Age in 1911:	30
Estimated Birth Year:	abt 1881
Relation to Head:	Boarder
Gender:	Female
Birth Place:	Ashton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:	Oldham
County/Island:	Lancashire
Country:	England
Street Address:	2 Talbot St Oldham
Marital Status:	Married
Occupation:	Coloured Weaver Cotton Cloth Manufacture
Registration district:	Oldham
Registration District Number:	469
Sub-registration district:	Oldham East
ED, institution, or vessel:	11
Piece:	24449

 

Name:	Joseph Rimmer
Age in 1911:	24
Estimated Birth Year:	abt 1887
Relation to Head:	Boarder
Gender:	Male
Birth Place:	Ashton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:	Oldham
County/Island:	Lancashire
Country:	England
Street Address:	2 Talbot St Oldham
Marital Status:	Married
Occupation:	Carter
Registration district:	Oldham
Registration District Number:	469
Sub-registration district:	Oldham East
ED, institution, or vessel:	11
Piece:	24449

Note that in 1911, Joseph and Mary Rimmer (married March 18, 1911) were at that time living with the parents of his wife, Micheal and Mary Morrissey as of April 2, 1911. Their first child, John Rimmer, born 1911, is not identified as yet born.

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1911

JOSEPH RIMMER AND MARY (MORRISSEY) RIMMER

MAY 16

BIRTHS 1837 - 2006

JOHN RIMMER

Last name	First names	Registration district	County Registered	Year
RIMMER	John	Oldham	Lancashire	1911

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First name(s)	JOHN
Last name	RIMMER
Birth year	1911
Birth quarter	2
Registration month	-
Mother's last name	-
District	OLDHAM
County	Lancashire
Country	England
Volume	8D
Page	579
Record set	England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category	Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory	Births & baptisms
Collections from	United Kingdom

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Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1911
Surname	Forename(s)	Sub-District	Registers At	Mother's Maiden Name	Reference
RIMMER	John	Oldham East	Oldham	MORRISSEY	OEAS/16/315

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

NOTE: John was born 16/5/1911 (May 16, 1911) - Oldham East - according to:
http://search.ancestry.ca/ - New Soldier's Records, Microfilm Page 0229--288 - British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

CENSUS OF 1911

APRIL 2

JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER

25 OLD RD, ASHTON IN MAKERFIELD, LANCASHIRE

Google

25 Old Road [Ashton-in-makerfield, Wigan, Lancashire]

John Rimmer: Coal Miner Hewer; Born Lancashire, Southport
Alice Rimmer: Born Lancashire, Ashton-in-Makerfield
Thomas Rimmer:  Coal Cutting Machinist Below Ground; Born Lancashire, Ashton-in-Makerfield
Richard Rimmer: Collier Labourer Below Ground Miner; Born Lancashire, Ashton-in-Makerfield
Alice Rimmer: Born Lancashire, Ashton-in-Makerfield
William Rimmer: Surface Screen Labourer; Born Lancashire, Ashton-in-Makerfield
Ernest Rimmer: School; Born Lancashire, Ashton-in-Makerfield

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Institution, Household or Vessel	Name	Birth Year	Age	Sex	Registration District	County
Household	RIMMER, John	1863	48	M	Wigan	Lancashire
Household	RIMMER, Alice	1862	49	F	Wigan	Lancashire
Household	RIMMER, Thomas	1890	21	M	Wigan	Lancashire
Household	RIMMER, Richard	1892	19	M	Wigan	Lancashire
Household	RIMMER, Alice	1895	16	F	Wigan	Lancashire
Household	RIMMER, William	1897	14	M	Wigan	Lancashire
Household	RIMMER, Earnest	1900	11	M	Wigan	Lancashire

FIVE ROOM DWELLING (Including kitchen but not bathroom)

Name:	John Rimmer
Age in 1911:	48
Estimated Birth Year:	abt 1863
Relation to Head:	Head
Gender:	Male
Birth Place:	Southfield, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:	Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island:	Lancashire
Country:	England
Street Address:	25 Old Rd Ashton In Makerfield Lancashire
Marital Status:	Married
Occupation:	Coal Miner Hewer
Registration district:	Wigan
Registration District Number:	458
Sub-registration district:	Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel:	2
Piece:	23089
Household Members:	Name Age John Rimmer 48 Alice Rimmer 49 Thomas Rimmer 21 Richard Rimmer 19 Alice Rimmer 16 William Rimmer 14 Earnest Rimmer 11

 

Name:	Alice Rimmer
Age in 1911:	49
Estimated Birth Year:	abt 1862
Relation to Head:	Wife
Gender:	Female
Birth Place:	Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:	Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island:	Lancashire
Country:	England
Street Address:	25 Old Rd Ashton In Makerfield Lancashire
Marital Status:	Married
Registration district:	Wigan
Registration District Number:	458
Sub-registration district:	Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel:	2
Piece:	23089

 

Name:	Thomas Rimmer
Age in 1911:	21
Estimated Birth Year:	abt 1890
Relation to Head:	Son
Gender:	Male
Birth Place:	Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:	Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island:	Lancashire
Country:	England
Street Address:	25 Old Rd Ashton In Makerfield Lancashire
Marital Status:	Single
Occupation:	Coal Cutting Machinist Below Ground
Registration district:	Wigan
Registration District Number:	458
Sub-registration district:	Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel:	2
Piece:	23089

 

Name:	Richard Rimmer
Age in 1911:	19
Estimated Birth Year:	abt 1892
Relation to Head:	Son
Gender:	Male
Birth Place:	Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:	Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island:	Lancashire
Country:	England
Street Address:	25 Old Rd Ashton In Makerfield Lancashire
Marital Status:	Single
Occupation:	Collier Labourer Below Ground Miner
Registration district:	Wigan
Registration District Number:	458
Sub-registration district:	Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel:	2
Piece:	23089

 

Name:	Alice Rimmer
Age in 1911:	16
Estimated Birth Year:	abt 1895
Relation to Head:	Daughter
Gender:	Female
Birth Place:	Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:	Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island:	Lancashire
Country:	England
Street Address:	25 Old Rd Ashton In Makerfield Lancashire
Marital Status:	Single
Registration district:	Wigan
Registration District Number:	458
Sub-registration district:	Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel:	2
Piece:	23089

 

Name:	William Rimmer
Age in 1911:	14
Estimated Birth Year:	abt 1897
Relation to Head:	Son
Gender:	Male
Birth Place:	Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:	Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island:	Lancashire
Country:	England
Street Address:	25 Old Rd Ashton In Makerfield Lancashire
Marital Status:	Single
Occupation:	Surface Screen Labourer
Registration district:	Wigan
Registration District Number:	458
Sub-registration district:	Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel:	2
Piece:	23089

 

Name:	Ernest Rimmer
Age in 1911:	11
Estimated Birth Year:	abt 1900
Relation to Head:	Son
Gender:	Male
Birth Place:	Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:	Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island:	Lancashire
Country:	England
Street Address:	25 Old Rd Ashton In Makerfield Lancashire
Marital Status:	Single
Occupation:	School
Registration district:	Wigan
Registration District Number:	458
Sub-registration district:	Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel:	2
Piece:	23089

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/CensusPersonStartSearchServlet?censusYear=1911

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1912 - 1915

JOSEPH RIMMER AND MARY (MORRISSEY) RIMMER
SON RICHARD RIMMER

EMPLOYMENT

• Oldham Industrial Co-Operative Society, Limited, King Street, Oldham, Telephone No. 188

• Employed: 1912-1915 as a horseman (carter in charge of horses)

http://search.ancestry.ca/ - New Soldier's Records, Microfilm Page 0229--288 - British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

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1913

JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER

MARCH 24

THOMAS RIMMER

mentioned in the record of Matthews and Thomas Rimmer

Name	Thomas Rimmer
Event Type	Marriage
Registration Quarter	Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year	1913
Registration District	Wigan
County	Lancashire
Event Place	Wigan, Lancashire, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911)	Matthews
Volume	8C
Page	16
Line Number	78
Thomas Rimmer probably married:
Name	Kathleen Matthews

KATHLEEN MATTHEWS

mentioned in the record of Rimmer and Kathleen Matthews

Name	Kathleen Matthews
Event Type	Marriage
Registration Quarter	Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year	1913
Registration District	Wigan
County	Lancashire
Event Place	Wigan, Lancashire, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911)	Rimmer
Volume	8C
Page	16
Line Number	108
Kathleen Matthews married:
Name	Thomas Rimmer

APRIL 9

JOSEPH RIMMER AND MARY (MORRISSEY) RIMMER

BIRTHS 1837 - 2006

BEATRICE RIMMER

Mother's Maiden Name: Morrissey

Last name	First names	Registration district	County Registered	Year
RIMMER	BEATRICE	OLDHAM	LANCASHIRE	1913

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First name(s)	BEATRICE
Last name	RIMMER
Birth year	1913
Birth quarter	2
Registration month	-
Mother's last name	MORRISSEY
District	OLDHAM
County	Lancashire
Country	England
Volume	8D
Page	1123
Record set	England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category	Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory	Births & baptisms
Collections from	United Kingdom

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Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1913
Surname	Forename(s)	Sub-District	Registers At	Mother's Maiden Name	Reference
RIMMER	Beatrice	Oldham East	Oldham	MORRISSEY	OEAS/20/398

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

NOTE: Beatrice was born 9/4/1913 (April 9, 1913) - Oldham East- according to:
http://search.ancestry.ca/ - New Soldier's Records, Microfilm Page 0229--288 - British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

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1915

FEBRUARY 27

JOSEPH RIMMER AND MARY (MORRISSEY) RIMMER
SON RICHARD RIMMER

7 LENNOX STREET, OLDHAM

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Richard (Dick) Rimmer [Michael (Mike) Richards]
(February 27, 1915 - January 17, 1970)
According to his February 27, 1915 Birth Certificate

REGISTRATION DISTRICT                                                            Oldham

1915 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Oldham South ................ in the .... County of Oldham, C.B. .............

 

Columns:-	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10*
No.	When and where born	Name, if any	Sex	Name and surname of father	Name, surname and maiden surname of mother	Occupation of father	Signature, description and residence of informant	When registered	Signature of registrar	Name entered after registration
12	Twenty seventh February 1915 7 Lennox Street Oldham U K	Richard	Boy	Joseph Rimmer	Mary Rimmer formerly Morrissey	Carter Cooperative Society	Joseph Rimmer Father 7 Lennox Street Oldham	Ninth April 1915	Joseph Adamson Registrar

• Entry of Birth given at the General Register Office, Oldham, 1915 birth in the Sub-district of Oldham South in the County of Oldham C.B. [County Borough]

SOURCE

• General Registry Office England

• Note: Cooperative Society = Oldham Industrial Cooperative Society [Oldham Industrial Co-operative Society Limited]?

1915

FEBRUARY 27

JOSEPH RIMMER AND MARY (MORRISSEY) RIMMER
SON RICHARD RIMMER

7 LENNOX STREET, OLDHAM

BIRTHS 1837 - 2006 

Mother's Maiden Name: Morrissey

Last name	First names	Registration district	County Registered	Year
RIMMER	RICHARD	OLDHAM	LANCASHIRE	1915

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First name(s)	RICHARD
Last name	RIMMER
Birth year	1915
Birth quarter	2
Registration month	-
Mother's last name	MORRISSEY
District	OLDHAM
County	Lancashire
Country	England
Volume	8D
Page	1132
Record set	England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category	Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory	Births & baptisms
Collections from	United Kingdom

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Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1915
 

Surname	Forename(s)	Sub-District	Registers At	Mother's Maiden Name	Reference
RIMMER	Richard	Oldham South	Oldham	MORRISSEY	OSOU/26/12

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ 

Birth Indexes

Surname	Forename(s)	Mother's Maiden Name	Year	Sub-District	Registers At	Region	Reference
RIMMER	Richard	MORRISSEY	1915	Oldham South	Oldham	Lancashire	OSOU/26/12

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RIMMER%7CRichard%7COldham%20South%7COldham%7C
1915%7C1915%7C%7COM%3AOSOU%2F26%2F12%
7CR%7C67055%7Clancashire%7COM%7CMORRISSEY&lang=

NOTE: Richard was born 27/2/1915 (February 27, 1915) - Oldham South - according to:
http://search.ancestry.ca/ - New Soldier's Records, Microfilm Page 0229--288 - British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

1915

MARCH 1, 1915 - APRIL 17, 1915

JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER

THOMAS RIMMER (July 23, 1889, Parish Ashton-In-Makerfield, County Lancashire -)
MARRIED MARCH 24, 1913, KATHLEEN MATTHEWS]

CHILDREN: JOHN ERNEST RIMMER (October 21, 1914, Ashton-In-Makerfield-)

24 OLD ROAD, ASHTON IN MAKERFIELD

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1915

JUNE 28 - OCTOBER 25

JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER

ERNEST RIMMER (October 12, 1899, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England - )

SON AND DAUGHTER OF JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER

25 OLD ROAD, ASHTON IN MAKERFIELD

• Ernest Rimmer in the army, 25 Old Road Ashton-In-Makerfield

1915

JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER

NELLIE RIMMER [ELLEN RIMMER] (October 15, 1887- )

25 OLD ROAD, ASHTON IN MAKERFIELD

• Nellie Rimmer, [25 Old Road], Ashton-In-Makerfield, identified as Ernest Rimmer's closest relative (sister)

• Click Here for: [George Whitehead, Possible Husband, married Nellie Rimmer, July 9, 1916 ]

Regimental Number T.4/092287, Discharged October 25, 1915, Mis-statement of age since under 17 at date of application

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1915

JULY 17

JOSEPH RIMMER AND MARY (MORRISSEY) RIMMER

21 LENNOX STREET, OLDHAM

• Residence: 21 Lennox Street, Oldham

  • http://search.ancestry.ca/ - New Soldier's Records, Microfilm Page 0229--288 - British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

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1915 - 1923

JOSEPH RIMMER

ARMY VETERINARY CORPS

 

Name:	Joseph Rimmer
Estimated Birth Year:	abt 1886
Age at Enlistment:	29
Residence:	21 Lennox Street, Oldham
Document Year:	1915
Regimental Number:	10906
Regiment Name:	AVC (Horsekeeper)
Number of images:	35

• Joseph Rimmer

• Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886

• Age at enlistment: 29

• Residence: 21 Lennox Street, Oldham

• Document Year: 1915

• Regimental Number: 10906

• Regiment Name: AVC (Horsekeeper)

NAME:	Joseph Rimmer
REGIMENT OR CORPS:	Army Veterinary Corps
REGIMENTAL NUMBER:	SE/10906

DATE OF ENTRY: France - September 14, 1915

PRIVATE - LATER SERGEANT

MEDALS:

VICTORY - [ROLL] Rare /101 B14 [PAGE] 705
[Allied Victory Medal (Victory Medal) was awarded for service in any operational theater between 5 August 1914 and 11 November 1918. It was issued to individuals who received the 1914 and 1914-15 Stars and to most individuals who were issued the British War Medal.]

BRITISH [ROLL] - DO -  [PAGE] - DO -
[British War Medal was awarded to both servicemen and civilians that either served in a theater of war, or rendered service overseas between 5 August 1914 and 11 November 1918.]

15 STAR - [ROLL] Rare / [PAGE] 4B
[1914-15 Star was awarded for service in France or Flanders (Belgium) between 23 November 1914 and 31 December 1915, or for service in any theater between 5 August 1914 and 31 December 1915]

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 - http://search.ancestry.ca/

http://search.ancestry.ca/ - New Soldier's Records, Microfilm Page 0229--288 - British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

 

Sergt. Rimmer, No. 10906 of 19 Veterinary Hospital

British Army Service Records 1914-1920 Image
 

First name(s)	Joseph
Last name	Rimmer
Service number	4228
Regiment	Army Veterinary Corps
Unit / Battalion	19th Battalion
Event year	-
Age	-
Birth year	-
Birth town	Ashton-in-Makerfield
Birth county	Lancashire
Birth country	England
Residence town	Oldham
Residence county	Lancashire
Series	WO 363
Record set	British Army Service Records 1914-1920
Category	Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory	First World War
Collections from	Great Britain

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Joseph Rimmer, SE. 10906 P/A/Sgt. J. Rimmer, A.V.O.

WAR SERVICE

FRANCE: FORGES-LES-EAUX

Unit 8th Veterinary Hospital [No. 8 Veterinary Hospital]

HORSEKEEPER

• Birthplace: Parish Ashton-in-Makerfield, County Lancashire

• Born: 1886

• Workplace:

  • Oldham Industrial Co-Operative Society, Limited, King Street, Oldham, Telephone No. 188

  • Employed: 1912-1915 as a horseman (carter in charge of horses)

• Address at Attestation, July 17, 1915: 21 Lennox Street, Oldham

• Wife: Mary Rimmer (Mary Morrissey, spinster, 18/3/1911(b) (March 18, 1911), St. Annes, Greenacres, Oldham)

• Children:

  • John: 16/5/1911 (May 16, 1911) - Oldham East

  • Beatrice: 9/4/1913 (April 9, 1913) - Oldham East

  • Richard: 27/2/1915 (February 27, 1915) - Oldham South

• 5 feet 91/2 inches tall; 148 pounds; 39 inches when chest girth fully expanded with 3 1/4 inches his range of expansion; in good physical development; vaccination mark on right arm; Vision, R.E.-V= 6/18 and L.E.-V= 6/24; Subject to dental treatment

• Accepted after his teeth were pulled

• Age 29 years 68 days, July 17, 1915

• Religion: Not stated

• Trade: Horsekeeper @ 3/. per diem [3 shillings per day]

• He got at least three letters of recommendations so that he could join up with the service (he was anxious to join up)

• Army Veterinary Corps; Regiment Number SE 10906

• Examined Hollingwood, July 14, 1915

• Medical category: A

• Rank: S.E., 10906

• Enlisted July 17, 1915 at Hollingwood

• Joined at Woolwich: 20-7-15 (July 20, 1915)

• Service: Duration of war

• Embarked at Southampton 12-9-15 (September 12, 1915); Disembarked at Rouen 14-9-15 (September 14, 1915) [No. 19 Veterinary Hospital at Rouen]

  • Appointed Lance Corporal in the field: 16.12.15 (December 16, 1915)

  • Promoted Corporal: 8.2.16 (February 8, 1916)

  • Granted leave: 21.10.16 to 30.10.16 (October 21, 1916-October 30, 1916)

  • Appointed Acting Sergeant: 30.4.17 (April 30, 1917)

  • Promoted Sergeant: 30.4.17 - (April 30, 1917]

  • Injury playing football: 5.10.17 (October 5, 1917)

  • Granted 14 days leave: 23.11.17 to 7.12.17 (November 23, 1917-December 7, 1917)

  • Forges-les-Eaux - Severely reprimanded: 9.11.18 (November 9, 1918) for using threatening language to a Private (8.11.18 - November 8, 1918)

  • Granted 14 days  leave: 8.1.19 to 22.1.19 (January 8, 1919 to January 22, 1919)

[?] England: 22.1.19 (January 22, 1919)

• Transferred to Class "Z" Army Reserve of Demobilization: 5.3.19 (March 5, 1919) [The Z Reserve was abolished on 31 March 1920 - Demobilization occurred on March 31, 1920]

• Home Address" 6 Talbot Street, Oldham

• Report on Accidental or Self-Inflicted Injuries:

  • 10906 Sergt. J. Rimmer, A.V.C. No. 19 Veterinary Hospital

  • Date of Casualty: 5/10/17 (October 5, 1917)

  • Twist of left knee. Playing football. Strained ligament on inside joint of joint. Not severe. (Sd) G. Burnet, Capt. RAMC, 6/10/17 (October 6, 1917)

  • Fell and twisted left knee while playing football.

  • Playing at the Indian Veterinary Hospital, Rouen, October 5, 1917, at 5:30 PM, in a game between 19 Veterinary Hospital and Indian Veterinary Hospital

  • Not in performance of military duty and not to blame.

  • Commanding Officer: (Sd) A. Hodgins, Major, A.V.C. commanding 19 Vetinary. Hospital

  • G.O.C. Brigade: (Sd) W. Jenner, Lt. Colonel, A.A. & Q.M.G. for Brig. Genl. Base Commander

• February 4, 1919: Permanent residence - 6 Talbot Street, Oldham

• February 4, 1919: Age as of last birthday - 32

• February 5, 1919: Place of rejoining in case of emergency - Ormskirk

• Discharged: Rank Sergeant; Unit 8th Veterinary Hospital; Royal Army Veterinary Corps; 5th March; Address: 6 Talbot Street, Oldham Lane; No disability due to his military service

[British Army WWI Pension - Claim for a Disability Pension]

• Ministry of Pensions, Courts of Enquiry on Accidental or Self-Inflicted Injuries Form placed on File: Stamped October 6, 1922. October 7, 1922,  and [?] 16, 1923:

  • J. Rimmer, Sgt, had been discharged from No. 10906, A.V.C. without claim to Pension

  • Form completed October 6, 1922

http://search.ancestry.ca/ - New Soldier's Records, Microfilm Page 0229--288 - British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

NOTE:

A search by regiment number (10906) does not indicate that he received a pension as of 1920:

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920

http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=1114

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1914 - 1918 WAR SERVICE

JOSEPH RIMMER SIBLINGS

UNITED KINGDOM SERVICE

• THOMAS RIMMER (July 23, 1889, Ashton-In-Makerfield-) MARRIED March 24, 1913, KATHLEEN MATTHEWS
   

• RICHARD RIMMER (June 4, 1891, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England -)
   

• ERNEST RIMMER (October 12, 1899, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England- ) MARRIED August 8, 1925, SUSAN COAKLEY (c. 1903-)

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1919

FEBRUARY 4

JOSEPH RIMMER AND MARY (MORRISSEY) RIMMER

6 TALBOT STREET, OLDHAM

• Home Address:  6 Talbot Street, Oldham

http://search.ancestry.ca/ - New Soldier's Records, Microfilm Page 0229--288 - British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

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1921

JUNE 19

CENSUS

6 TALBOT STREET, OLDHAM

JOSEPH RIMMER AND MARY (MORRISSEY) RIMMER

JOSEPH RIMMER

First name(s): Joseph

Last name: Rimmer

Birth year: 1886

Birth place: Preston, Lancashire, England

Parish: Oldham

Registration district: Oldham

County: Lancashire

Occupation: Club stewards

Employer: Club

.................

MARY RIMMER

First name(s): Mary

Last name: Rimmer

Birth year: 1881

Birth place: Preston, Lancashire, England

Parish: Oldham

Registration district: Oldham

County: Lancashire

Occupation: Home

.................

JOHN RIMMER

First name(s): John

Last name: Rimmer

Birth year: 1911

Birth place: Preston, Lancashire, England

Parish: Oldham

Registration district: Oldham

County: Lancashire

.................

BEATRICE RIMMER

First name(s): Beatrice

Last name: Rimmer

Birth year: 1913

Birth place: Preston, Lancashire, England

Parish: Oldham

Registration district: Oldham

County: Lancashire

.................

RICHARD RIMMER

First name(s): Richard

Last name: Rimmer

Birth year: 1915

Birth place: Preston, Lancashire, England

Parish: Oldham

Registration district: Oldham

County: Lancashire

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/1921-census

1921

JUNE 19

CENSUS

25 OLD ROAD, ASHTON IN MAKERFIELD

JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER

JOHN RIMMER

First name(s): John

Last name: Rimmer

Birth year: 1862

Birth place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

Parish: Billinge Higher End

Registration district: Wigan

County: Lancashire

Occupation: al

.................

ALICE RIMMER

First name(s): Alice

Last name: Rimmer

Birth year: 1862

Birth place: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England

Parish: Billinge Higher End

Registration district: Wigan

County: Lancashire

Occupation: Duty

.................

ALICE RIMMER

First name(s:) Alice

Last name: Rimmer

Birth year: 1894

Birth place: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England

Parish: Billinge Higher End

Registration: district Wigan

County: Lancashire

Occupation: Duty

.................

WILLIAM RIMMER

First name(s): William

Last name: Rimmer

Birth year: 1896

Birth place: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England

Parish: Billinge Higher End

Registration district: Wigan

County: Lancashire

Occupation: al

.................

ERNEST RIMMER

First name(s): Ernest

Last name: Rimmer

Birth year: 1899

Birth place: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England

Parish: Billinge Higher End

Registration district: Wigan

County: Lancashire

Occupation: al

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/1921-census

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1922

NOVEMBER 3 - NOVEMBER 10

JOSEPH RIMMER

• Joseph Rimmer leaves England on November 3, 1922 and arrives in Canada on November 10, 1922 under the assumed name of Joseph Knowles

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1923

MARY RIMMER, JOHN RIMMER, BEATRICE RIMMER AND RICHARD RIMMER

MAY 18 - MAY 26

• Mary (Wife of Joseph) and Children John, Beatrice and Richard Rimmer leave England on May 18, 1923 and arrive in Canada on May 26, 1923

WILLIAM RIMMER

SEPTEMBER 28 - OCTOBER 6

• William Rimmer, brother of Joseph Rimmer leaves England on September 28, 1923 and arrives in Canada on October 6, 1923

OCTOBER 6

ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER

25 OLD ROAD, ASHTON-IN-MAKERFIELD

• According to William Rimmer, his mother, Mrs. Alice Rimmer, was residing at 25 Old Road, Ashton in Makerfield,

William Rimmer in Canada Statement

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1924

MARCH 24 - MARCH 28

ERNEST RIMMER

• Ernest Rimmer leaves England on March 21, 1924 and arrives in Canada on March 28, 1924

MARCH 28

JOHN RIMMER

25 OLD ROAD, ASHTON-IN-MAKERFIELD

• According to Ernest Rimmer, John Rimmer, his Father, was residing at 25 Old Rd, ASHTON IN MAKERFIELD, Lancashire

Ernest Rimmer Statement

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1927

JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER

Death Date for John Rimmer?

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1927
Surname	Forename(s)	Age	Sub-District	Registers At	Reference
RIMMER	John	65	Ashton	Wigan & Leigh	ASHT/40/383

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Death Date for John Rimmer?

First name(s)	JOHN
Last name	RIMMER
Gender	Male
Birth day	-
Birth month	-
Birth year	1862
Age	65
Death quarter	4
Death year	1927
District	WIGAN
County	Lancashire
Volume	8C
Page	124
Country	England
Record set	England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category	Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory	Deaths & burials
Collections from	Great Britain

http://search.findmypast.co.uk

 1927

AUGUST 6

ALICE RIMMER (Born 14 October 1894 - Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England)

JOSEPH RIMMER CLAIMS THAT SISTER ALICE RIMMER
IS LIVING IN BRANTFORD, ONTARIO
[There is no record of an Alice Rimmer entering Canada]

 

http://search.ancestry.ca - Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Joseph Rimmer

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1939

JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER
SON JOSEPH RIMMER

Correct  Alice Rimmer?

1939 Register Transcription

First name(s)	Last name(s)	Birth year	Borough / District	County
Alice	Rimmer	1861	Ashton-in-Makerfield U.D.	Lancashire

3 MORE PEOPLE IN THIS DESCRIPTION:

[For Strange - See also 1953]

Alice Strange 1894 Ashton-in-Makerfield U.D. Lancashire
Frederick W Strange 1929 Ashton-in-Makerfield U.D. Lancashire
George F Strange 1888 Ashton-in-Makerfield U.D. Lancashire

Ref: RG101/4688B/013/12

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/1939-register

• Name: Alice Rimmer
  Gender: Female
  Marital status: Widow
  Birth Date: 11 Dec 1861
  Residence Year: 1939
  Address: 17 Sadysmith Ave [17 Ladysmith Ave]
  Residence Place: Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England
  Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
  Schedule Number: 119
  Sub Schedule Number: 4
  Enumeration District: NTEE
  Registration district: 458a-5
  Household Members:
  Name
  George F Strange
  Alice Strange
  Frederick W Strange
  Alice Rimmer

 

• Source Citation

The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1939 Register; Reference: RG 101/4688B
Source Information

Ancestry.com. 1939 England and Wales Register [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2018.

Original data: Crown copyright images reproduced by courtesy of TNA, London England. 1939 Register (Series RG101), The National Archives, Kew, London, England. The National Archives give no warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or fitness for the purpose of the information provided. Images may be used only for purposes of research, private study or education. Applications for any other use should be made to The National Archives Image Library, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU, Tel: 020 8392 5225. Fax: 020 8392 5266.

CORRECT RIMMER?

WILLIAM RIMMER

• Name: William Rimmer
  Gender: Male
  Marital status: Married
  Birth Date: 12 Sep 1896
  Residence Year: 1939
  Address: 63
  Residence Place: Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire, England
  Occupation: Colliery Electrician
  Schedule Number: 86
  Sub Schedule Number: 1
  Enumeration District: NTEH
  Registration district: 458A 5
  Inferred Spouse: Ann Rimmer
  Inferred Children: William N Rimmer
  John D Rimmer
  Household Members:
  Name
  William Rimmer
  Ann Rimmer
  William N Rimmer
  John D Rimmer

• Source Citation

The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1939 Register; Reference: RG 101/4688H
Source Information

Ancestry.com. 1939 England and Wales Register [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2018.

Original data: Crown copyright images reproduced by courtesy of TNA, London England. 1939 Register (Series RG101), The National Archives, Kew, London, England. The National Archives give no warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or fitness for the purpose of the information provided. Images may be used only for purposes of research, private study or education. Applications for any other use should be made to The National Archives Image Library, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU, Tel: 020 8392 5225. Fax: 020 8392 5266.

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1946

JOHN RIMMER AND ALICE (KNOWLES) RIMMER
SON JOSEPH RIMMER

Death Date for Alice Rimmer?

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1946
Surname	Forename(s)	Age	Sub-District	Registers At	Reference
RIMMER	Alice	84	Ashton	Wigan & Leigh	ASHT/4A/97

 

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Death Date for Alice Rimmer? But Wrong District [unless perhaps Ince-In-Makerfield]

First name(s)	ALICE
Last name	RIMMER
Gender	Female
Birth day	-
Birth month	-
Birth year	1862
Age	84
Death quarter	1
Death year	1946
District	INCE
County	Lancashire
Volume	8C
Page	128
Country	England
Record set	England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category	Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory	Deaths & burials
Collections from	Great Britain

http://search.findmypast.co.uk

FEBRUARY 7

ALICE RIMMER
(Born 14 October 1894 - Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England)

RIMMER Alice of 17 Ladysmith-avenue Ashton-in-Makerfield Lancashire widow died 7 February 1946 Liverpool 22 March to George Alexander Fulton registered medical practitioner. Effects £152 18s.

Tom's Wills: Addresses in UK wills 1931-1939

http://www.haine.org.uk/toms_wills/wills_data.php?parish=Lancashire&page=14

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 1952

ERNEST RIMMER AND SUSAN RIMMER VISIT W. RIMMER

AUGUST 29

ARRIVAL

Empress of Canada, from Montreal, Arrived Liverpool, August 29, 1952

Rimmer, Ernest, 52, Receiver; Rimmer Susan, 49, Housewife
Proposed Address: Ashton-In-Makerfield, Lancashshire
Last Permanent Address: Canada
Country of Intended Permanent Residence: Other Parts of the Empire
Country of which Subject or Citizen: USA

http://search.ancestry.ca

AUGUST 31

ARRIVAL

Name:	Ernest Rimmer
Birth Date:	abt 1900
Age:	52
Port of Departure:	Tiko, Cameroon [Not On The Attached Original Document]
Arrival Date:	31 Aug 1952 [Not On The Attached Original Document]
Port of Arrival:	Liverpool, England
Ship Name:	Empress of Canada
Shipping Line:	Messrs Elders and Fyffes Ltd [Not On The Attached Original Document]
Official Number:	181664 [Not On The Attached Original Document]

Proposed Address He will be visiting: Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire
Ernest Rimmer (age 52) - Receiver
Susan (age 49 - Housewife) is with him

Reference and text provided by Kate (Lowe) Latham, Brampton, Ontario on her "Kats Paternal Tree" on ancestry.ca.

OCTOBER 14

DEPARTURE

	Ernest Rimmer
Gender	Male
Age	52
Birth Date	abt 1900
Departure Date	14 Oct 1952
Port of Departure	Liverpool, England
Destination Port	Montreal, Canada
Ship Name	Empress Of Canada
Shipping Line	Canadian Pacific
Official Number	160631
Master	J P Dobson

"Kats Paternal Tree" on ancestry.ca.

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960

First name(s)	ERNEST
Last name	RIMMER
Gender	Male
Age	52
Birth year	1900
Marital status	M
Departure year	1952
Departure day	14
Departure month	10
Departure port	LIVERPOOL
Destination port	MONTREAL
Destination	MONTREAL
Country	CANADA
Destination country	CANADA
Ship name	EMPRESS OF CANADA
Ship official number	160631
Ship master's first name	J P
Ship master's last name	DOBSON
Shipping line	CANADIAN PACIFIC
City	LIVERPOOL
Ship destination port	MONTREAL
Ship destination country	CANADA
Ship registered tonnage	11243
Number of passengers	628
Record set	Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category	Immigration & Travel
Subcategory	Passenger lists
Collections from	Australia & New Zealand, United Kingdom, Ireland, United States & Canada

 

First name(s)	SUSAN
Last name	RIMMER
Gender	Female
Age	49
Birth year	1903
Marital status	M
Departure year	1952
Departure day	14
Departure month	10
Departure port	LIVERPOOL
Destination port	MONTREAL
Destination	MONTREAL
Country	CANADA
Destination country	CANADA
Ship name	EMPRESS OF CANADA
Ship official number	160631
Ship master's first name	J P
Ship master's last name	DOBSON
Shipping line	CANADIAN PACIFIC
City	LIVERPOOL
Ship destination port	MONTREAL
Ship destination country	CANADA
Ship registered tonnage	11243
Number of passengers	628
Record set	Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category	Immigration & Travel
Subcategory	Passenger lists
Collections from	Australia & New Zealand, United Kingdom, Ireland, United States & Canada

Ernest and Susan Rimmer were visiting: Mr. W. Rimmer, 17 Ladysmith Ave. Ashton-In-Makerfield, Lancashire -

Empress of Canada, October 14, 1952, Leaving Liverpool for Quebec-Montreal

Contract Ticket 29026: Ernest (age 52) and Susan Rimmer (age 49)

Last Address: c /o Mr. W. Rimmer, 17 Ladysmith Ave. Ashton-In-Makerfield, Lancashire

http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=tna%2fbt27%2f1712000029%2f00530

http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=tna%2fbt27%2f1712000029%2f00531

http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=tna%2fbt27%2f1712%2f00%2f0029%2fp%2f0013f&parentid=tna%2fbt27%2f1712000029%2f00530

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1953

NOTE FOR 1953

17 LADYSMITH AVE., ASHTON-IN-MAKERFIELD

ALICE STRANGE

[For Strange: See also 1939]

Alice Strange of 17 Ladysmith avenue Ashton in Makerfield Lancashire widow died 8 May 1953. Administration Liverpool 25 September to Frederick William Strange schoolmaster. Effects £420 18s 10d.

Principal Registry of Probate - From 1858 to 1953 Transcriptions from the Calendar of Wills and Administrations These are for the name of Strange and Strainge in the indexes to the Principal Registry of Probate

http://www.yourtotalevent.com/people/Calendar%20of%20Wills%20-%201858%20onward.htm

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ANCESTRAL GENEALOGICAL NOTES

The name Rymer is an occupational one meaning ‘rhymer’ or poet and became particularly common in south-west Lancashire from an early period: in Formby and North Meols its occurrence was frequent to an extraordinary degree: it has been noted, for example that by 1666 the hearth tax returns show that ‘nearly half the population of Birkdale were Rimmers’! ... This frequency led to nicknames being added to the name to make identification possible. The spellings Rymer/Rimer/Rimmer and Rimmer were all absolutely interchangeble and the variations are not to be seen as significant in any way. As elsewhere in this work the surname has usually been spelled according to the variation used in the source being quoted ...

http://tsgf.pbworks.com/f/Rimmer+of+N.+Meols.pdf

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The Parish of North Meols, Church of England,
Historically Centred around St. Cuthbert's Church in Churchtown,
Includes Churchtown, Crossens, Marshside and Banks

The Parish of North Meols (which included Churchtown, Crossens, Marshside and Banks) has had its history dated back to pre-conquest days. Known then as Otegrimeles, it was held by Saxon Lords until the Norman Conquest. In between the sea and the great Martin Mere, the narrow strip of arable land that consituted North Meols passed on to William De Coudrey. The son of William De Coudrey, Robert, built the first Manor House in the Parish, Meols Hall, but the area remained isolated and thus was very slow developing. The cluster of cottages around the Church became known as Churchtown and was for many centuries the most populated area in North Meols.

http://www.northmeols.com/localhistory.html